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Marvel Puts Young Iceman Back in the Closet In 'X-Men' Comic Book
Iceman Was Almost Put Back into the Closet By Marvel
Marvel Comics just put X-Men character Iceman back in the closet
The final issue of Marvel Entertainment’s Extermination series has been released, closing out a six-year era of X-Men comic books by wrapping up a long-dangling plot element — and, in the process, upsetting fans with how it was achieved.
The fifth issue of the miniseries by Ed Brisson and Pepe Larraz follows through on the promise present throughout the series, by sending the time-displaced younger versions of the original X-Men — Cyclops, Marvel Girl, the Beast, Iceman and Angel — back to the very moment they were kidnapped from, back in 2012’s All-New X-Men No. 1, to preserve the integrity of Marvel comic book history. But there’s a cost, and it’s one that not everyone is comfortable with.
In 2015’s All-New X-Men No. 40, the teen Iceman was outed as being gay, a development that got no small amount of media attention and significantly upped the profile of a character that had been around since 1963’s X-Men No. 1 but remained a mid-level hero in terms of fan base and attention. It was also a narrative problem for the larger Marvel Universe timeline. If the Iceman of the past had come out as gay — albeit in the present, because time travel — then what happened to the Iceman of the present, who was not being portrayed as being gay, and more to the point, how would this revelation impact the Iceman of the past when he was returned to his correct time period?
The first of those issues was quickly, and easily, dealt with: The older Iceman came out himself seven months later, in Uncanny X-Men No. 600. As for the second, that’s where Extermination ran into criticism.
In the issue, the original X-Men are returned to their own time period and discuss how to best protect the timeline — namely, wiping their own memories of the future and everything they discovered while they were there. “We can’t suspect anything’s changed,” Jean Grey argues. The problem being this purposefully puts the younger Iceman back in the closet, a creative decision some are unhappy about.
The subject is, briefly, touched upon inside the comic itself; before the teen Iceman returns to his time period, he has a conversation with his older self. “I’m not the same person. I don’t want to go back to pretending I’m something I’m not,” he says. His older self attempts to comfort him by saying, “No matter what happens when you go back… you finally let me be honest with myself. And no one can take that from us.”
Iceman Was Almost Put Back into the Closet By Marvel
Marvel … for all the grief and ire you have gotten about being too diverse with too many minorities and SJW-agenda blah blah blah, you still can’t even manage to really hit the nail on the head.
For all the times you give us something like Ironheart, we also have to deal with what just happened in Extermination #5. Over at Paste Magazine, Steve Foxe broke down how the latest issue of the Marvel series added on to the already messy handling of Iceman/Bobby Drake’s sexuality. Let’s start with the new stuff, and then we shall put it into context.
In Extermination #5, the X-Men are overwhelmed by a pair of young mutants capable of turning any X-Men they touch into mindless hounds, the solution to this, according to teen Cable (lol), is to return to a moment in their past and wipe away any memories they have of their adventures in the present.
As Foxe explains, “This means sacrifice on behalf of each of them: Warren must accept becoming inexorably tied to Apocalypse, Jean knows she’ll become possessed by the Phoenix and enter a cycle of death and rebirth, Scott is aware he’ll one day kill his mentor and then die of a plague and Hank must submit to becoming blue and furry. But for Bobby, his sacrifice is much more grounded in reality. To preserve the X-Men timeline and defeat Ahab, the gleeful, unabashedly gay teenaged Bobby Drake must choose to give up his authentic self and live his teen and early adult years in the closet all over again.”
Reading this gave me chills because just the very idea of having to go back in the closet is a nightmare for me. While not every single person in my family knows I’m bisexual, in my social life, it’s a huge part of who I am. Learning to be comfortable with the label, with the skin I am in and my attraction to women, has been so important to me. The only thing I regret is not knowing it sooner, which is why the idea of Adult Bobby losing all these memories of being out at a young age sting so badly.
The younger Bobby says, “I’m not sure I can go back to … before. I’m not the same person. I don’t want to go back to pretending I’m something I’m not.” Thankfully, Jean uses techniques she learned from a young memory-altering mutant to lock their future adventures deep in their minds, and so, in present day, the adult versions of everyone do remember everything their younger selves experienced, “preserving six years of stories while tying off a continuity headache,” as Foxe put it.
While this was a neat package to wrap this whole story in, much like Foxe, I find this kind of thing really upsetting, especially because it ends up not going through. Neither possible outcome would be ideal, but the fact that Bobby’s queerness could be used as such a plot device frustrates me. Marvel and DC have been making moves to get better LGBTQ diversity in their comics, and the result has been mixed. Even Bobby’s sexuality was forced out, in-universe, when Jean read his mind and found out.
Thankfully, Bobby was able to experience love with Romeo and, as an adult, will have access to those memories, but it still sucks that they even held that over his head. With the death of DC’s Poison Ivy depicted in a pose that people found to be too hyper-sexualized for a major queer female character, I can see how readers are very sensitive to the fact that, for all the representation Marvel does try to include, there’s also a fear that it’ll be taken away from us without getting its full value appreciated.
For me, I just don’t understand why, when it comes to gay characters, our reality has to always revolve around our sexuality when it comes to these sorts of threats. Why does Bobby’s ultimate fate have to be tied to the closet when his comrades don’t have horrors in the future that deal with their sexuality?
It’s uncomfortable even if the intent is good, because it’s something too grounded in reality to be done and then undone within the span of a few panels. If you were never going to put him back into the closet (which you shouldn’t do, period), then don’t present that as a threat, because that’s an actual reality people have to deal with—especially during the holidays, when people sometimes have to put on a whole new personality to face their parents.
Marvel Comics just put X-Men character Iceman back in the closet
“Marvel putting young Iceman back in the closet is truly cruel. Sexuality is not a plot device.”
Back in 2015, for the 40th issue of All-New X-Men, a younger, time displaced version of Iceman was revealed as gay by his friend and teammate, Jean Grey, who discovered his sexuality with her powers of telepathy.
Later, the character had a passionate embrace with Inhuman star Romeo, which received a full page spread.
The storyline divided fans, because the character’s adult, present-day counterpart was depicted as straight, and often embarked upon romances with women. Shortly after, Iceman became the first hero to headline a Marvel comic book series a gay lead – which received universal praise from the LGBTQ community.
The series focused on the adult Bobby Drake coming to terms with his Omega-level superpowers, his life as an out gay man, all while battling some of the biggest and most powerful villains in the Marvel Universe.
However, the final issue of the X-Men Extermination series from Ed Brisson and Pepe Larraz has completely reversed Iceman’s character development, and put him straight back into the closet.
In the issue, the displaced X-Men are forced to return to their former time period, and to protect the timeline, their memories were wiped, which means Bobby will have no memory of coming to terms with his sexuality.
In the issue, the younger Bobby told his older counterpart: “I’m not the same person. don’t want to go back to pretending I’m something I’m not,” to which he responds: “If you hadn’t come here and been able to embrace who you really are, then I’d still be living a lie too.
“So, no matter what happens when you go back, you finally let me be honest with myself. And no one can take that from us.”
Marvel fans were understandably outraged, with one fan posting on Twitter: “Fuck Extermination. Fuck Uncanny X-Men. Fuck all the creators and editors who couldn’t manage to bother finding a way for young Bobby Drake to be happy.
“The message this sends to LGBT people is palpably dismissive and cruel.”