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by Icefanatic
Godzilla Stomps the Marvel Universe in New Variant Covers!

www.marvel.com/articles/comics/godzilla-variant-covers

This year, Marvel Comics proudly reprints its classic ‘70s Godzilla comic book series in GODZILLA #1 FACSIMILE EDITION and the highly-anticipated GODZILLA: THE ORIGINAL MARVEL YEARS OMNIBUS, collecting Doug Moench and Herb Trimpe’s entire 24-issue run in color for the first time!

To celebrate this exciting collaboration with Toho International, the
Japanese studio’s U.S.-based subsidiary that has brought global
sensation Godzilla to life, Marvel Comics will also be producing
brand-new Godzilla Variant Covers on select issues this September.


See the King of the Monsters tower over iconic Marvel characters in
21 explosive covers! Drawn by some of the industry’s hottest artists,
these breathtaking battles and daring team-ups depict Godzilla alongside
super hero icons including the Avengers, the X-Men, Spider-Man, and Deadpool.



AVENGERS #18 Godzilla Variant Cover by Ario Anindito



On Sale 9/4

DAREDEVIL #13
Godzilla Variant Cover by Nick Bradshaw

EXCEPTIONAL X-MEN #1 Godzilla Variant Cover by Leinil Francis Yu

FANTASTIC FOUR #25 Godzilla Variant Cover by Greg Land

IMMORTAL THOR #15 Godzilla Variant Cover by Jonas Scharf

MILES MORALES: SPIDER-MAN #24 Godzilla Variant Cover by Romy Jones

SCARLET WITCH #4 Godzilla Variant Cover by Mitsuhiro Arita

SPIDER-BOY #11 Godzilla Variant Cover by Lee Garbett



On Sale 9/11

CAPTAIN AMERICA #13
Godzilla Variant Cover by Phil Noto

SPIDER-GWEN: THE GHOST-SPIDER #5 Godzilla Variant Cover by InHyuk Lee

VENGEANCE OF THE MOON KNIGHT #9 Godzilla Variant Cover by Taurin Clarke



On Sale 9/18

AVENGERS #18
 Godzilla Variant Cover by Ario Anindito

DAZZLER #1 Godzilla Variant Cover by Elizabeth Torque

DEADPOOL #6 Godzilla Variant Cover by Paco Medina

INCREDIBLE HULK #17 Godzilla Variant Cover by Andrei Bressan

VENOM #37 Godzilla Variant Cover by Dave Wachter

X-MEN #4 Godzilla Variant Cover by Chris Samnee



On Sale 9/25

AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #58
 Godzilla Variant Cover by Leo Romero

AVENGERS ANNUAL #1 Godzilla Variant Cover by Pete Woods

PHOENIX #3 Godzilla Variant Cover by Rickie Yagawa

UNCANNY X-MEN #2 Godzilla Variant Cover by David Baldeon



On Sale 10/16

WOLVERINE #2
 Godzilla Variant Cover by Roge Antonio



Check out 15 GODZILLA VARIANT COVERS and preorder them at your local comic shop today!




by Icefanatic
In our image uploaders area, Pasteboard has been removed and Image Chest has been added.

Any problems or issues, please let me know.
by neko
OMG, it's been so long I don't even get the names right anymore. Yes, Joe Quesada - he was rude to me in an email, basically said Marvel doesn't worry about women readers. I hope I'm remembering that correctly. Not that I have the email anymore, that may have been a few computers ago. LOL Anyway, apologies for getting it all wrong. I stopped buying comics after KT and read a few issues of TH. I know, I have that right. LMAO.I refused to try some other book because Rogue was in and Gambit was sidelined as usual.

Gail Simone has Uncanny X-Men in the fall, I'll give it a couple of issues. We'll see. Thanks again for reminding me of things I forgot.

I'll check the dm/pm. Thanks.


Liu had a series on Dirk & Steele, a little soapy but I only read one book as well. Hard to come to a conclusion on the series.

I love dragon books too, there is a series that sort of ended. (I say sort of because after last one in the series, no more books.) There a couple of others but not as good and one writer was annoying with her favorites. I like Dragon books too.


I like paranormal stuff. It's the only way to get Vampires, Werewolves, Demons doing good things despite their background.
by Icefanatic
neko Avatar
Joe Madureira was my nemesis in the whole Marvel office. His art was great though, I think I still have the matching Gambit and Rogue with plants surrounding them. In his 'purge', I lost my Gambit solo via Fabian Nicieza, and Steve Skroce in the beginning. Skroce was given a mini. Yannick Paquette was horrible for the book.

It was well written in general though the second year was a miss but that said, G fans loved this guy. I'm a tad more critical but it is what it is.

Liu was not well liked, no clue. Too much romance and not enough action stuff but she gave Iceman his due and he was buds with Gambit. There is my bromance, my other one is with Wolverine for Gambit.

The interesting part is Liu did write romance novels and she had a heroine who was handicapped, absolutely amazing direction. Did I like all of her books, no. Interesting ideas none the less.


BTW - absolutely love dragons. I've got more than one series of books about dragons.


My pseudo grand kid has art and stories about dragons. How cool is that! Long story ... for another time.

Do you and Profezzor use discord? Might be fun to actually chat it up voice wise.

Okay, have a good one. :)


Joe Madureira? I think you mean Joe Quesada? :P

Joe Quesada's a great artist, but some of his editorial decisions were not great. I HATED HATED HATED Yannick Paquette's depiction of Gambit. Steve Skroce also did one of my favorite arcs for Wolverine.

I was not a fan of Joe Mad's art at first but he won me over. Probably because I got more into Anime/Manga and became more receptive to its influences on his style. He did some good stuff with Iceman.

I have one of Marjorie Liu's paranormal romances. Eye of Heaven.



There was a price sticker over part of Marjorie's name so I didn't even realize she had written it until after I got it home. I'm 99% sure I bought that book because of the girl on the cover, and I am not ashamed to admit that. ::)

I like dragons, too(I'm a big fan of fantasy fiction). I actually had a matching pair of dragon incense burners and I sadly broke one of them all to hell last year. Still have a dragon candle-holder.

I'm not on Discord(No idea if the Profezzor uses it or not). I'll send you a PM/DM regarding it.
by neko
Joe Madureira was my nemesis in the whole Marvel office. His art was great though, I think I still have the matching Gambit and Rogue with plants surrounding them. In his 'purge', I lost my Gambit solo via Fabian Nicieza, and Steve Skroce in the beginning. Skroce was given a mini. Yannick Paquette was horrible for the book.

It was well written in general though the second year was a miss but that said, G fans loved this guy. I'm a tad more critical but it is what it is.

Liu was not well liked, no clue. Too much romance and not enough action stuff but she gave Iceman his due and he was buds with Gambit. There is my bromance, my other one is with Wolverine for Gambit.

The interesting part is Liu did write romance novels and she had a heroine who was handicapped, absolutely amazing direction. Did I like all of her books, no. Interesting ideas none the less.


BTW - absolutely love dragons. I've got more than one series of books about dragons.


My pseudo grand kid has art and stories about dragons. How cool is that! Long story ... for another time.

Do you and Profezzor use discord? Might be fun to actually chat it up voice wise.

Okay, have a good one. :)
by Icefanatic
neko Avatar
Funny thing about the name Joe Kelly. I worked with a guy named Joe Kelly - a totally different field, you'd think I'd remember the name.

That said, loads of missed opportunities. They had good teams and one of them had to clean up Antarctica because it was getting a lot of heat back then if I remember correctly (fans were peeved, then years later Wolverine gets dumped in Antarctica, was that the place Xmen went? Stupid). Thus the blame went to Gambit due to his influence on Rogue, but no - she had no remorse. That took a few issues and that didn't work (too much time for that bs and on one page, no G fan bought it). In the end it was all Magneto's doing to force the issue. Those two writers doomed themselves. Ah well, in the past.

BTW - I kept an Iceman Mini and Liu's run. I even kept a Maddrox mini and he's not a fan fav for me but .... there was some hilarious moments in the book.

Getting back to Iceman, what wasted opportunities with him. Iceman can do more. He is more powerful and the printed page or even a novel would showcase that nuance. Some might think it's much but not me, if he can be a dragon, go Ice go.

Love the convo. :)


It's funny you mentioned a novel. I was talking a bit with someone about the X-Men/Marvel prose novels from the 90's a few weeks back. I still remember the shock of seeing the first X-Men novel in a supermarket, with the cover proclaiming it was the first in a trilogy. The X-Men TAS cartoon had recently gotten me back into comics and X-Men, and I was fast becoming a major Iceman fan but the comics weren't giving me enough focus on Iceman to satisfy me.

I couldn't believe that the 'Mutant Empire' trilogy actually gave Iceman his own story-line, if memory serves the only character to get that. Suddenly the novels were a big part of my growing Iceman fandom. It was amazing how much focus Iceman got in some of those books. I still remember him playing pool with Gambit in the Spider-Man/X-Men Time's Arrow trilogy. I often got more of the moments I wanted from the comics from the novels instead.

Bob Harras basically nixed Iceman becoming the Dragon as part of his purge of the X-Line having, in his opinion, too many elements that were magical/mystical/cosmic/alien. Lots of characters that fit that bill were abruptly dumped from X-Men, X-Factor, New Mutants, Excalibur... Rachel Summers, who bore the powers, uniform and codename of Phoenix at the time was exiled into the timestream; Jean's connection the Phoenix was then heavily minimized; and Bobby's road to becoming the Dragon was all but stopped.

Harras kept that block on Iceman becoming the Dragon in effect starting in 1991 during his time as editor of the X-Line, continuing through his time as EIC of Marvel, and not ending until he left Marvel in 2000. :(

Loving the convo as well. :)
by neko
Funny thing about the name Joe Kelly. I worked with a guy named Joe Kelly - a totally different field, you'd think I'd remember the name.

That said, loads of missed opportunities. They had good teams and one of them had to clean up Antarctica because it was getting a lot of heat back then if I remember correctly (fans were peeved, then years later Wolverine gets dumped in Antarctica, was that the place Xmen went? Stupid). Thus the blame went to Gambit due to his influence on Rogue, but no - she had no remorse. That took a few issues and that didn't work (too much time for that bs and on one page, no G fan bought it). In the end it was all Magneto's doing to force the issue. Those two writers doomed themselves. Ah well, in the past.

BTW - I kept an Iceman Mini and Liu's run. I even kept a Maddrox mini and he's not a fan fav for me but .... there was some hilarious moments in the book.

Getting back to Iceman, what wasted opportunities with him. Iceman can do more. He is more powerful and the printed page or even a novel would showcase that nuance. Some might think it's much but not me, if he can be a dragon, go Ice go.

Love the convo. :)

by Icefanatic
neko Avatar
Yeah, Purp is right, it was Seagle. I thought I edited my message. The other writer on Xmen didn't like Gambit either but I'd have to look that guy up.

Sina Grace, that's it. That would be great to have the links to look up the writers for Iceman.

It's not easy unloading books due to attachment but I don't regret it and I still a few boxes. :)


The other writer was Joe Kelly.

In interviews right after they took over the X-Books, Joe Kelly and Steve Seagle both talked about having big plans for Iceman, but nothing ever came of it.

Of course their run was short(about a year) before conflicts with editorial wanting to plot and plan everything and leave Kelly and Seagle to just script from that drove them from the books.

I know they intended to restore Jean as Phoenix and give her a baby with Cyclops, so maybe they intended to do something with the Dragon stuff with Bobby as well. Regardless, editorial would not allow that to go forward until around 2001.
by neko
Yeah, Purp is right, it was Seagle. I thought I edited my message. The other writer on Xmen didn't like Gambit either but I'd have to look that guy up.

Sina Grace, that's it. That would be great to have the links to look up the writers for Iceman.

It's not easy unloading books due to attachment but I don't regret it and I still a few boxes. :)
by Icefanatic
neko Avatar
Scott Lobdell - Gambit fans have a love/dislike with his writing but for me he was alright. I think I read somewhere he wanted to kill off Gambit and office wouldn't let him Steve Seagle left him to die in Antarctica (UXM #350). Nicieza is hit or miss with me but overall, pretty good. I'll always be an Asmus fan. Kelly T and T Howard I dislike with a passion for Gambit. Who was that silly writer of Iceman solo, the one who couldn't shout loud enough of sexuality. That was annoying, write a story.

I went hardcore and donated or sold almost all of my comics. Not an easy thing but wanted my hobby room back. I still have books but I have been very picky, of course Gambit but I kept an Iceman mini and a few CrossGen stuff.

RE: Avengers. I had no clue that Iceman turned them down twice. Wow. I have to think on it but in general good for him or the writing team.

As for suggestions for this forum, I do not have anything - I don't even run my forum to the best it could be but ... due to Xmen '97, and the new Uncanny X-Men with Gail Simon upcoming (fall 2024), its gotten activity. And to think AO3 wanted the site and I would have lost the forum. Watching the activity, good to just let things ride (patience is a virtue). LOL. CBR is still a/an ... (whatever word).

Nostalgia: Gambit and Wolverine with a cross-over with Batman and Robin - G and W stole the Batmobile. I loved it.
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I believe it was Purplevit who debunked some people's claims that Lobdell wanted to kill Gambit or leave him in Antarctica a few years back. Lobdell had planned that Gambit would return with the X-Men and then deal with the aftermath of his Trial, Steve Seagle changed that to leaving him stranded in Antarctica. Steve Seagle did not like Gambit. In his own words: "I was constantly having to do stuff with Gambit who I did not like at all because I’m from the south and nothing about him ever struck me as being southern even though he’s supposed to be from Louisiana."

I'm southern as well(from Virginia), and I know plenty of people from the south that come off far less southern than Remy. There is a difference between being just southern and being more rural. Gambit's more of a city cat than a country cat.

The Iceman writer you are referring to is Sina Grace. Bad as he often was, it turns out he was the high water mark for Iceman solo writing in recent years. He was followed by writer/artist Luciano Vecchio and later Steve Orlando, whom I had heard good things about from his writing on Midnighter at DC but nope, just as bad. The art on his run was the only real good thing. I may shoot you a DM/PM here in a little bit with some links.

I've mostly stopped getting new comics except something sporadic. I have contemplated unloading but haven't gotten there yet.

I'm really glad you kept the GG forum and I'm loving all the recent activity there. I don't post there a lot, but I read it regularly.

I was just discussing that DC/Marvel crossover the other day at CBR, great stuff! It had a lot of heart for a crossover story.

Recent Posts

by Icefanatic
Godzilla Stomps the Marvel Universe in New Variant Covers!

www.marvel.com/articles/comics/godzilla-variant-covers

This year, Marvel Comics proudly reprints its classic ‘70s Godzilla comic book series in GODZILLA #1 FACSIMILE EDITION and the highly-anticipated GODZILLA: THE ORIGINAL MARVEL YEARS OMNIBUS, collecting Doug Moench and Herb Trimpe’s entire 24-issue run in color for the first time!

To celebrate this exciting collaboration with Toho International, the
Japanese studio’s U.S.-based subsidiary that has brought global
sensation Godzilla to life, Marvel Comics will also be producing
brand-new Godzilla Variant Covers on select issues this September.


See the King of the Monsters tower over iconic Marvel characters in
21 explosive covers! Drawn by some of the industry’s hottest artists,
these breathtaking battles and daring team-ups depict Godzilla alongside
super hero icons including the Avengers, the X-Men, Spider-Man, and Deadpool.



AVENGERS #18 Godzilla Variant Cover by Ario Anindito



On Sale 9/4

DAREDEVIL #13
Godzilla Variant Cover by Nick Bradshaw

EXCEPTIONAL X-MEN #1 Godzilla Variant Cover by Leinil Francis Yu

FANTASTIC FOUR #25 Godzilla Variant Cover by Greg Land

IMMORTAL THOR #15 Godzilla Variant Cover by Jonas Scharf

MILES MORALES: SPIDER-MAN #24 Godzilla Variant Cover by Romy Jones

SCARLET WITCH #4 Godzilla Variant Cover by Mitsuhiro Arita

SPIDER-BOY #11 Godzilla Variant Cover by Lee Garbett



On Sale 9/11

CAPTAIN AMERICA #13
Godzilla Variant Cover by Phil Noto

SPIDER-GWEN: THE GHOST-SPIDER #5 Godzilla Variant Cover by InHyuk Lee

VENGEANCE OF THE MOON KNIGHT #9 Godzilla Variant Cover by Taurin Clarke



On Sale 9/18

AVENGERS #18
 Godzilla Variant Cover by Ario Anindito

DAZZLER #1 Godzilla Variant Cover by Elizabeth Torque

DEADPOOL #6 Godzilla Variant Cover by Paco Medina

INCREDIBLE HULK #17 Godzilla Variant Cover by Andrei Bressan

VENOM #37 Godzilla Variant Cover by Dave Wachter

X-MEN #4 Godzilla Variant Cover by Chris Samnee



On Sale 9/25

AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #58
 Godzilla Variant Cover by Leo Romero

AVENGERS ANNUAL #1 Godzilla Variant Cover by Pete Woods

PHOENIX #3 Godzilla Variant Cover by Rickie Yagawa

UNCANNY X-MEN #2 Godzilla Variant Cover by David Baldeon



On Sale 10/16

WOLVERINE #2
 Godzilla Variant Cover by Roge Antonio



Check out 15 GODZILLA VARIANT COVERS and preorder them at your local comic shop today!




by Icefanatic
In our image uploaders area, Pasteboard has been removed and Image Chest has been added.

Any problems or issues, please let me know.
by neko
OMG, it's been so long I don't even get the names right anymore. Yes, Joe Quesada - he was rude to me in an email, basically said Marvel doesn't worry about women readers. I hope I'm remembering that correctly. Not that I have the email anymore, that may have been a few computers ago. LOL Anyway, apologies for getting it all wrong. I stopped buying comics after KT and read a few issues of TH. I know, I have that right. LMAO.I refused to try some other book because Rogue was in and Gambit was sidelined as usual.

Gail Simone has Uncanny X-Men in the fall, I'll give it a couple of issues. We'll see. Thanks again for reminding me of things I forgot.

I'll check the dm/pm. Thanks.


Liu had a series on Dirk & Steele, a little soapy but I only read one book as well. Hard to come to a conclusion on the series.

I love dragon books too, there is a series that sort of ended. (I say sort of because after last one in the series, no more books.) There a couple of others but not as good and one writer was annoying with her favorites. I like Dragon books too.


I like paranormal stuff. It's the only way to get Vampires, Werewolves, Demons doing good things despite their background.
by Icefanatic
neko Avatar
Joe Madureira was my nemesis in the whole Marvel office. His art was great though, I think I still have the matching Gambit and Rogue with plants surrounding them. In his 'purge', I lost my Gambit solo via Fabian Nicieza, and Steve Skroce in the beginning. Skroce was given a mini. Yannick Paquette was horrible for the book.

It was well written in general though the second year was a miss but that said, G fans loved this guy. I'm a tad more critical but it is what it is.

Liu was not well liked, no clue. Too much romance and not enough action stuff but she gave Iceman his due and he was buds with Gambit. There is my bromance, my other one is with Wolverine for Gambit.

The interesting part is Liu did write romance novels and she had a heroine who was handicapped, absolutely amazing direction. Did I like all of her books, no. Interesting ideas none the less.


BTW - absolutely love dragons. I've got more than one series of books about dragons.


My pseudo grand kid has art and stories about dragons. How cool is that! Long story ... for another time.

Do you and Profezzor use discord? Might be fun to actually chat it up voice wise.

Okay, have a good one. :)


Joe Madureira? I think you mean Joe Quesada? :P

Joe Quesada's a great artist, but some of his editorial decisions were not great. I HATED HATED HATED Yannick Paquette's depiction of Gambit. Steve Skroce also did one of my favorite arcs for Wolverine.

I was not a fan of Joe Mad's art at first but he won me over. Probably because I got more into Anime/Manga and became more receptive to its influences on his style. He did some good stuff with Iceman.

I have one of Marjorie Liu's paranormal romances. Eye of Heaven.



There was a price sticker over part of Marjorie's name so I didn't even realize she had written it until after I got it home. I'm 99% sure I bought that book because of the girl on the cover, and I am not ashamed to admit that. ::)

I like dragons, too(I'm a big fan of fantasy fiction). I actually had a matching pair of dragon incense burners and I sadly broke one of them all to hell last year. Still have a dragon candle-holder.

I'm not on Discord(No idea if the Profezzor uses it or not). I'll send you a PM/DM regarding it.
by neko
Joe Madureira was my nemesis in the whole Marvel office. His art was great though, I think I still have the matching Gambit and Rogue with plants surrounding them. In his 'purge', I lost my Gambit solo via Fabian Nicieza, and Steve Skroce in the beginning. Skroce was given a mini. Yannick Paquette was horrible for the book.

It was well written in general though the second year was a miss but that said, G fans loved this guy. I'm a tad more critical but it is what it is.

Liu was not well liked, no clue. Too much romance and not enough action stuff but she gave Iceman his due and he was buds with Gambit. There is my bromance, my other one is with Wolverine for Gambit.

The interesting part is Liu did write romance novels and she had a heroine who was handicapped, absolutely amazing direction. Did I like all of her books, no. Interesting ideas none the less.


BTW - absolutely love dragons. I've got more than one series of books about dragons.


My pseudo grand kid has art and stories about dragons. How cool is that! Long story ... for another time.

Do you and Profezzor use discord? Might be fun to actually chat it up voice wise.

Okay, have a good one. :)
by Icefanatic
neko Avatar
Funny thing about the name Joe Kelly. I worked with a guy named Joe Kelly - a totally different field, you'd think I'd remember the name.

That said, loads of missed opportunities. They had good teams and one of them had to clean up Antarctica because it was getting a lot of heat back then if I remember correctly (fans were peeved, then years later Wolverine gets dumped in Antarctica, was that the place Xmen went? Stupid). Thus the blame went to Gambit due to his influence on Rogue, but no - she had no remorse. That took a few issues and that didn't work (too much time for that bs and on one page, no G fan bought it). In the end it was all Magneto's doing to force the issue. Those two writers doomed themselves. Ah well, in the past.

BTW - I kept an Iceman Mini and Liu's run. I even kept a Maddrox mini and he's not a fan fav for me but .... there was some hilarious moments in the book.

Getting back to Iceman, what wasted opportunities with him. Iceman can do more. He is more powerful and the printed page or even a novel would showcase that nuance. Some might think it's much but not me, if he can be a dragon, go Ice go.

Love the convo. :)


It's funny you mentioned a novel. I was talking a bit with someone about the X-Men/Marvel prose novels from the 90's a few weeks back. I still remember the shock of seeing the first X-Men novel in a supermarket, with the cover proclaiming it was the first in a trilogy. The X-Men TAS cartoon had recently gotten me back into comics and X-Men, and I was fast becoming a major Iceman fan but the comics weren't giving me enough focus on Iceman to satisfy me.

I couldn't believe that the 'Mutant Empire' trilogy actually gave Iceman his own story-line, if memory serves the only character to get that. Suddenly the novels were a big part of my growing Iceman fandom. It was amazing how much focus Iceman got in some of those books. I still remember him playing pool with Gambit in the Spider-Man/X-Men Time's Arrow trilogy. I often got more of the moments I wanted from the comics from the novels instead.

Bob Harras basically nixed Iceman becoming the Dragon as part of his purge of the X-Line having, in his opinion, too many elements that were magical/mystical/cosmic/alien. Lots of characters that fit that bill were abruptly dumped from X-Men, X-Factor, New Mutants, Excalibur... Rachel Summers, who bore the powers, uniform and codename of Phoenix at the time was exiled into the timestream; Jean's connection the Phoenix was then heavily minimized; and Bobby's road to becoming the Dragon was all but stopped.

Harras kept that block on Iceman becoming the Dragon in effect starting in 1991 during his time as editor of the X-Line, continuing through his time as EIC of Marvel, and not ending until he left Marvel in 2000. :(

Loving the convo as well. :)
by neko
Funny thing about the name Joe Kelly. I worked with a guy named Joe Kelly - a totally different field, you'd think I'd remember the name.

That said, loads of missed opportunities. They had good teams and one of them had to clean up Antarctica because it was getting a lot of heat back then if I remember correctly (fans were peeved, then years later Wolverine gets dumped in Antarctica, was that the place Xmen went? Stupid). Thus the blame went to Gambit due to his influence on Rogue, but no - she had no remorse. That took a few issues and that didn't work (too much time for that bs and on one page, no G fan bought it). In the end it was all Magneto's doing to force the issue. Those two writers doomed themselves. Ah well, in the past.

BTW - I kept an Iceman Mini and Liu's run. I even kept a Maddrox mini and he's not a fan fav for me but .... there was some hilarious moments in the book.

Getting back to Iceman, what wasted opportunities with him. Iceman can do more. He is more powerful and the printed page or even a novel would showcase that nuance. Some might think it's much but not me, if he can be a dragon, go Ice go.

Love the convo. :)

by Icefanatic
neko Avatar
Yeah, Purp is right, it was Seagle. I thought I edited my message. The other writer on Xmen didn't like Gambit either but I'd have to look that guy up.

Sina Grace, that's it. That would be great to have the links to look up the writers for Iceman.

It's not easy unloading books due to attachment but I don't regret it and I still a few boxes. :)


The other writer was Joe Kelly.

In interviews right after they took over the X-Books, Joe Kelly and Steve Seagle both talked about having big plans for Iceman, but nothing ever came of it.

Of course their run was short(about a year) before conflicts with editorial wanting to plot and plan everything and leave Kelly and Seagle to just script from that drove them from the books.

I know they intended to restore Jean as Phoenix and give her a baby with Cyclops, so maybe they intended to do something with the Dragon stuff with Bobby as well. Regardless, editorial would not allow that to go forward until around 2001.
by neko
Yeah, Purp is right, it was Seagle. I thought I edited my message. The other writer on Xmen didn't like Gambit either but I'd have to look that guy up.

Sina Grace, that's it. That would be great to have the links to look up the writers for Iceman.

It's not easy unloading books due to attachment but I don't regret it and I still a few boxes. :)
by Icefanatic
neko Avatar
Scott Lobdell - Gambit fans have a love/dislike with his writing but for me he was alright. I think I read somewhere he wanted to kill off Gambit and office wouldn't let him Steve Seagle left him to die in Antarctica (UXM #350). Nicieza is hit or miss with me but overall, pretty good. I'll always be an Asmus fan. Kelly T and T Howard I dislike with a passion for Gambit. Who was that silly writer of Iceman solo, the one who couldn't shout loud enough of sexuality. That was annoying, write a story.

I went hardcore and donated or sold almost all of my comics. Not an easy thing but wanted my hobby room back. I still have books but I have been very picky, of course Gambit but I kept an Iceman mini and a few CrossGen stuff.

RE: Avengers. I had no clue that Iceman turned them down twice. Wow. I have to think on it but in general good for him or the writing team.

As for suggestions for this forum, I do not have anything - I don't even run my forum to the best it could be but ... due to Xmen '97, and the new Uncanny X-Men with Gail Simon upcoming (fall 2024), its gotten activity. And to think AO3 wanted the site and I would have lost the forum. Watching the activity, good to just let things ride (patience is a virtue). LOL. CBR is still a/an ... (whatever word).

Nostalgia: Gambit and Wolverine with a cross-over with Batman and Robin - G and W stole the Batmobile. I loved it.
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I believe it was Purplevit who debunked some people's claims that Lobdell wanted to kill Gambit or leave him in Antarctica a few years back. Lobdell had planned that Gambit would return with the X-Men and then deal with the aftermath of his Trial, Steve Seagle changed that to leaving him stranded in Antarctica. Steve Seagle did not like Gambit. In his own words: "I was constantly having to do stuff with Gambit who I did not like at all because I’m from the south and nothing about him ever struck me as being southern even though he’s supposed to be from Louisiana."

I'm southern as well(from Virginia), and I know plenty of people from the south that come off far less southern than Remy. There is a difference between being just southern and being more rural. Gambit's more of a city cat than a country cat.

The Iceman writer you are referring to is Sina Grace. Bad as he often was, it turns out he was the high water mark for Iceman solo writing in recent years. He was followed by writer/artist Luciano Vecchio and later Steve Orlando, whom I had heard good things about from his writing on Midnighter at DC but nope, just as bad. The art on his run was the only real good thing. I may shoot you a DM/PM here in a little bit with some links.

I've mostly stopped getting new comics except something sporadic. I have contemplated unloading but haven't gotten there yet.

I'm really glad you kept the GG forum and I'm loving all the recent activity there. I don't post there a lot, but I read it regularly.

I was just discussing that DC/Marvel crossover the other day at CBR, great stuff! It had a lot of heart for a crossover story.

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