AXIS: Avengers and X-Men Discussion

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Post by cc008 on Jul 14, 2014 19:31:08 GMT -5

Here are the solicitations for the first three issues:

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AVENGERS & X-MEN: AXIS #1 (OF 9)
RICK REMENDER (W) • ADAM KUBERT (A)
Cover by JIM CHEUNG
Variant Cover by SKOTTIE YOUNG
DEADPOOL PARTY VARIANT COVER BY Chip Zdarsky
DEADPOOL PARTY SKETCH VARIANT COVER BY Chip Zdarsky
VARIANT COVER BY MILO MANARA
INVERSION VARIANT COVER BY TBA
PREMIERE VARIANT COVER BY TBA
YOUNG GUNS COMPLETE VARIANT COVER
ACT I: THE RED SUPREMACY
• The Red Skull has exploited the gifts of the world’s greatest telepath to broadcast pure hatred across the globe. Now, born of the murder of Charles Xavier, World War Hate has begun.
• Tony Stark discovers a secret truth that will upend not only his life, but also the lives of everyone he cares for.
• Can The Avengers and X-Men finally unite? Would their combined strength be enough to hold back the darkness of the Red Onslaught?
• Magneto murdered the wrong man, releasing the greatest evil the Marvel Universe has ever known. Now Rogue and Scarlet Witch are all that stand in its way.
40 PGS./Rated T+ …$4.99

AVENGERS & X-MEN: AXIS #2 (OF 9)
RICK REMENDER (W) • ADAM KUBERT (A)
Cover by JIM CHEUNG
YOUNG GUNS VARIANT COVER BY MAHMUD ASRAR
INVERSION VARIANT COVER BY TBA
ACT I: THE RED SUPREMACY
• The heroes of the Marvel Universe storm the beaches of Red Skull’s Genoshian Reeducation camps. What they discover within will lead to a bleak new era.
• The revelation of Tony Stark’s dark secret promises to shatter the fragile alliance between A and X.
• The all-new Captain America pays a terrible price.
• Nova’s attempt at solving the crisis leads to disaster.
• Magneto betrays his alliance to join an army of evil.
32 PGS./Rated T+ …$3.99

AVENGERS & X-MEN: AXIS #3 (OF 9)
RICK REMENDER (W) • LEINIL FRANCIS YU (A)
Cover by JIM CHEUNG
YOUNG GUNS VARAINT COVER BY NICK BRADSHAW
INVERSION VARIANT COVER BY TBA
ACT I: THE RED SUPREMACY
• With the heroes lost, the world’s fate lies in the hands of the vilest syndicate known to man.
• Scarlet Witch is forced to join Dr. Doom, the man who unleashed her power to cause M-Day, or she will watch those she loves most die.
• The return of one of the Marvel Universe’s great villains!
• An Avenger quits, a heart is broken, and the world as we know it is gone.
32 PGS./Rated T+ …$3.99

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fuzzyblueelf @fuzzyblueelf Senior Member Threads \| Posts \| Activity Bonecrawler Posts: 303 Joined: March 2014 Member Badges	Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by fuzzyblueelf on Jul 15, 2014 10:00:28 GMT -5 I won't be happy if Scarlet Witch and Nightcrawler don't interact, or if Nightcrawler and Rogue don't interact or if Magneto and Scarlet Witch don't interact.

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Post by fuzzyblueelf on Jul 21, 2014 4:54:05 GMT -5

Jul 20, 2014 16:25:06 GMT -5 cc008 said:

He writes a good Deadpool... which is pretty much the main reason I'm interested.

Same here lol.

I wish they got him to do Thunderbolts instead of Uncanny Avengers because Uncanny Avengers is such a huge mess that most people have stopped paying attention to, with the Ultimately bland character of Havok being made into the main character and the unnecessary cattiness of Rogue and Wanda the only good thing he did in that title was pair up Wanda and Simon everything else is just a mess.

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Post by neko on Jul 21, 2014 8:01:02 GMT -5

Jul 21, 2014 4:55:00 GMT -5 fuzzyblueelf said:

I thought you'd be happy given what he did to Rogue

LOL - while I don't care for or about Rogue. I didn't dance on her grave either. Though, I'm glad I haven't had to read about her for a long time which tbh was a much needed reprieve considering how far down the throat she was being shoved by writers. IMO

I don't care about his writing because so far he keeps going to the Apocalypse well and killing off characters is his m.o. and that got old.

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Jul 21, 2014 4:54:05 GMT -5 fuzzyblueelf said:

Same here lol.

I wish they got him to do Thunderbolts instead of Uncanny Avengers because Uncanny Avengers is such a huge mess that most people have stopped paying attention to, with the Ultimately bland character of Havok being made into the main character and the unnecessary cattiness of Rogue and Wanda the only good thing he did in that title was pair up Wanda and Simon everything else is just a mess.

I know! Him on Thunderbolts would have been perfect. He's basically written every character in the series at some point. His take on Punisher (FrankenCastle) was fresh and enjoyable to read, he launched the Agent Venom ongoing, which was one of my favorites for a while, and I loved his Deadpool in UXF. Plus he wrote Ross and Ghost Rider in an arc of Venom. It would have been great to see what threads he could carry over from all those titles.

Oh well. Missed opportunity.

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Post by sundowhn on Sept 2, 2014 15:15:03 GMT -5

AXIS is one I'm looking forward to. RR's UA has been touch and go for me -- I really liked aspects of it and intensely disliked other things -- but I highly enjoyed his UXF run as a whole. He made me a fan of Deadpool as well as Betsy with that one. It's good to see multiple X-Men getting a focus in AXIS, too. I think RR does an at least somewhat better job than many modern writers in handling a team book and development of multiple characters simultaneously, though the massive scale of this project seems like it would be a challenge for even the best of writers.

The notion of flipping personalities is an intriguing one, especially since at least some are rumored to be sticking around until 2015.

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Post by cc008 on Sept 5, 2014 11:41:44 GMT -5

I don't have any reservations about calling Remender one of my favorite writers. Everything I've read of his, I've thoroughly enjoyed. Uncanny X-Force, Frankencastle, Venom, Secret Avengers, and his creator owned work is top notch. I haven't read much of UA because I really don't have much interest in the characters involved.. but I'm definitely looking forward to AXIS since it involves pretty much everyone.

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Post by Icefanatic on Oct 8, 2014 12:56:34 GMT -5

Issue one was solid. Good recaps at the start should get anyone up to speed who hasn't been following Uncanny Avengers. Good plotting, good character beats. Some very nice X-Men moments once they join the fray, including them all being nice and civil toward each other.

Interesting new interview with Remender. EXCLUSIVE: Rick Remender Discusses Avengers & X-Men: AXIS #1 (Spoilers)

Looks like there will be a lot more fallout from this on the X-Books(I know one of the solicits said something about the X-Men finding a new home, that could play into a further division of the X-Teems) than we have previously been told.

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